[BXXPwg] BEEP vs. SOAP?

Keith McCloghrie kzm@cisco.com
Wed, 8 Nov 2000 11:28:43 -0800 (PST)


Folks,

Discussion of whether SOAP forces applications to be tightly or loosely
coupled is not within the charter of this WG, and the URL reference
which is being questioned is not under the control of this WG.

Thus, if you wish to continue this discussion, please do so elsewhere.

Thanks,
Keith.
 
> henrik - with respect: we've had this discussion before. each of us are
> stating opinion. you are perfectly free to express your position in
> contradiction to mine, as you have done before, do so below, and will no
> doubt do in the future. this is termed a disagreement. there's nothing wrong
> with that.
> 
> for myself, i am familiar with soap's history, infrastructure, and usage,
> and i think that my position is a reasonable interpretation of these
> things...
> 
> as a co-author of soap, you too have a context which leads you to believe
> that your position is a reasonable interpretation of these things...
> 
> /mtr
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Henrik Frystyk Nielsen" <frystyk@microsoft.com>
> To: "melhaas" <melhaas@lucent.com>; <bxxpwg@invisibleworlds.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 09:03
> Subject: RE: [BXXPwg] BEEP vs. SOAP?
> 
> 
> > Unfortunately this is not an accurate picture of what SOAP is (which I
> pointed
> > out at the last IETF meeting in Pittsburgh) and I would urge the owner of
> the
> > page [1] to update it.
> >
> > There is nothing in SOAP that talks about it being a tightly coupled RPC
> > system. It is a one-way message protocol that can (as many other
> protocols) be
> > used by applications that define certain programming models that can be as
> > tightly or as loosely coupled as one desire.
> >
> > Saying that a protocol like SOAP implies tightly coupling is based on a
> > misconception of what makes an application tightly or loosely coupled.
> >
> > Btw, SOAP is in no way limited to being used in combination with HTTP. As
> an
> > example, SOAP can quite easily be used in combination with MIME
> multipart -
> > there is a small spec describing how this can be done at
> >
> >
> >
> http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/John_Barton/HTTP-A/SOAPAttachments16OCT00.htm
> >
> > It's one of the few specs that prides itself of not inventing anything
> new.
> >
> > Henrik Frystyk Nielsen
> > mailto:frystyk@microsoft.com
> >
> > [1] http://bxxp.org/bxxp/info/qanda.jsp
> >
> >
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> >
> 
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